tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11093162.post2481119097299722620..comments2024-03-23T19:16:01.555-07:00Comments on Can it happen here?: A slightly disjointed meditation on the baptism of Jesusjaninsanfranhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07548452260456734928noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11093162.post-39786580388226732082009-01-19T14:59:00.000-08:002009-01-19T14:59:00.000-08:00hiAs the culture of protest takes hold, then an ef...hi<I>As the culture of protest takes hold, then an effective inside strategy can be created. J Street makes a start in Washington, even though for many protesters it will seem too little, too timid.</I><BR/><BR/>This is a wise point. <BR/><BR/>But as to J Street itself: An organization that can't bring itself to take a position on the recent cheerleading resolutions in the House and Senate, <A HREF="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/01/08/israel/" REL="nofollow">nor</A> to give a straightforward answer to a question about it, is <I>much</I> too timid to be effective even as an insider strategy at this point.Nellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01969732734453586544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11093162.post-6648250036425239852009-01-12T14:28:00.000-08:002009-01-12T14:28:00.000-08:00Tina, I am not saying anything close to what you w...Tina, I am not saying anything close to what you wrote. Of course the Palestinians were not responsible for the Holocaust and it is horrible that the Palestinians left their homeland and that the Jews took part of it. <BR/><BR/>Yes, the United States is complicit in the atrocities perpetrated by Israel. Especially during the last eight years. What I am saying is that we must now get beyond the past and both sides must give up a revenge mentality. If each side keeps on making war, supporting terrorist attacks, invasion, etc. (note I am not taking sides here) there will never be peace.<BR/><BR/>My question is this; Can both sides realize this constant war of revenge hurts everyone and solves nothing? If they want peace and and a homeland for the Palestinians (as I do) then guns and rockets must be replaced by diplomacy and a common solution that stops the madness. <BR/><BR/>Your last comment sounds like you would like to push the Jews into the sea by having all Arab citizens march en masse. Do you really hate them so much? That is exactly what I am talking about. It is time to stop the hatred and revenge for everyone's sake. It only keeps the blood flowing.<BR/><BR/>You wonder if the U. S. would take the Jews if you were successful in ousting them. I think that times are different and we would assimilate them, but I don't know. I think it was shameful that we didn't take them during WWII, but it is time to let the past be the past.Darlenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18373134676852496647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11093162.post-13890910553463532032009-01-12T12:52:00.000-08:002009-01-12T12:52:00.000-08:00Darlene, do you mean to say that the palestinians ...Darlene, <BR/>do you mean to say that the palestinians were/are responsible of the facts that jews were massacred in europe and are the palestinians also responsible for the fact that the USA government of the time refused refuge to the survivors, thus the palestinians are co-responsible of the massacre perpetrated on them?<BR/>were, we, the lebanese responsible for the savage attack of the israelis on my country in 1982 that killed 17,000 people in a country of barely 4millions then?<BR/>let me state it once again: the good people of the usa who did NOT demonstrate against their government support of the destruction of my country in 1982, are co-responsible of the deaths that are happening in gaza today.<BR/>fortunately, we did not need your support in kicking out the israeli army in 1982 and again in 2006. <BR/>hopefully, the palestinians refugees will not need your support to march peacefully on israel, from gaza, from lebanon, from syria, from the west bank, from jordan. what will you say then? will you demonstrate then in order to have your government open, this time, the doors of your country to jewish emigration?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11093162.post-82979130418945847282009-01-12T08:02:00.000-08:002009-01-12T08:02:00.000-08:00When you take sides in any war you must, of necess...When you take sides in any war you must, of necessity, fail to take in the other's position. Just as the propaganda machines of WWII called the Japanese, 'dirty Japs" and dehumanized them, so do the two sides in this tragedy dehumanize the opponent. Neither side is blameless.<BR/><BR/>This terrible hatred goes back to the time of John the Baptist. the only solution that I can see is tough diplomacy that will concentrate on education and the elimination of this hatred passed down from generation to generation. And the only way to do this is to give each side some of their demands while making them compromise on others.Darlenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18373134676852496647noreply@blogger.com